Results achieved to date

Recent Y-DNA tests of thirteen Baber/Beaver family members born in the USA and England have enabled us to deduce at least 110 of the standard 111 markers of the Y-DNA of several early ancestors, among them

• John Baber d. 1527 "Top of the List" (all 111 markers),
• Edward Baber 1531-1578, interred in a tomb in St. Andrew's Church, Chew Magna, (110 of 111 markers),
  
• Robert Baber 1651-aft. 1718 "The Immigrant", (all 111 markers) and
• Isaac Baber 1769?-1845 (all 111 markers).
  

In addition, the BigY tests of five of these Baber/Beaver family members have enabled us to deduce a total of more than 400 markers for Edward and the other ancestors listed above. These ancestors are all in the newly identified haplosubclade E-BY5515, a subclade of E-Z38770, which is a subclade of E-L241, which is in turn a subclade of E-V13.

A number of other members born in the USA are in haplogroup R-M269. As yet, we have been unable to link them to ancestral roots outside the USA. Especially Y-DNA test results in haplogroup R from Baber family members with definite ancestry in England or a third country are needed.

Of our members in haplogroup R, two are known to be in the subclade R-L151.

Many of the ancestral trees on the BaberFamilyTree.org web site are not connected with one another. Our Y-DNA test results have enabled us to connect some of these trees with each other. In the E-BY5515 group, tested persons in the trees headed by the following people and on the given web pages are related, that is, all descend from one common ancestor within family name time. The Y-DNA results have enabled us to determine the positions in the tree of their intermediate common ancestors:

• David Baber d: Nov 10, 1616, http://baberfamilytree.org/worldwide/david1616.htm
• John Baber b: Abt. 1730, http://baberfamilytree.org/worldwide/baber-short.htm
• John Baber Died: 1527, http://baberfamilytree.org/worldwide/top-england.htm and http://baberfamilytree.org/worldwide/top-england2.htm
  
• John Baber d: Bet. Aug - Oct 1810, http://baberfamilytree.org/usa/john-1755.htm
• William Baber b: 1811, http://baberfamilytree.org/worldwide/baber-cook.htm
  

In subgroup 3 of haplogroup R, tested persons in the trees headed by the following five people on the given web pages are related, that is, all descend from one common ancestor within family name time. Because too few markers have been tested, we can only partially determine the positions in the tree of their intermediate common ancestors. Y-DNA test results indicate that Achilles and Zenus have a common ancestor and that John Jr. and Thomas have a (different) common ancestor. All five have an earlier common ancestor. We know that William Robert fits into this ancestral tree, but we do not know how.

• Achilles Baber aka: Akillis b: Abt. 1772, http://baberfamilytree.org/usa/achilles.htm
• William Robert Baber, Sr. b: Abt. 1793, http://baberfamilytree.org/usa/wm-robert.htm
• John Baber, Jr. b: Abt. 1760, http://baberfamilytree.org/usa/johnjr.htm
• Thomas Baber b: Abt. 1720, http://baberfamilytree.org/usa/baber-lawson.htm
• Zenus Baber b: Oct 11, 1788, http://baberfamilytree.org/usa/zenus.htm

Not yet achieved: Future results?

The BaberFamilyTree.org web site includes a number of subtrees with no known ancestry. We encourage people listed in such a tree to have their Y-DNA tested. Their test results can help to identify other related subtrees and to direct searches for their ancestors.

We know of Baber families in various centuries in France, Germany, Netherlands, Poland, Hungary, etc., but have not determined if and how they connect with our families in and from England and the U.S.A. Y-DNA testing could help here very much.

We have little or no information on Baber families in many other countries. We would like to fill these gaps.

For further information:

If you have any questions or would like to be DNA tested to see where you belong, please contact Robert L. Baber, Group Administrator, at Bob@RLBaber.de.

Last updated September 25, 2018.