We are genealogical DNA U152/L2/FGC22501 Celtic who tested positive for FGC22501 and its subclades. The path is R1b > M269 > L11 > P312 (S116) > U152 (S28) > L2 > FGC22501... This group is open to any male patrilineal DNA sample which either tested positive for U152/L2/FGC22501 or any FGC22501 subclade and has value 13 occasionally 12 or 14 for its 37th Y-DNA STR-marker DYS438 or whose Y-67 or Y-111 indicated FGC22501+ in the Nevgen haplogroup predictor : https://www.nevgen.org/ Currently, the historical path by location appears to be NE Iran (10000+7000 years ago )-> Armenia -> Crimea/Ukrain (Pontic-Caspian) steppes -> Bohemia (4000 years ago) -> SW Germany/NE France (3000 years ago) -> Gaul -> Lorraine (larger Trier and Verdun regions) > and then broadly scattered from there. All members of this group must test positive for FGC22501 or its subclades. If you have only Y-DNA results with value 13 occasionally 14 for your 37th STR-marker DYS438 and believe your ancestry could be related -- we highly recommend further testing taking a BigY 700 to find your personal SNP, position in our FGC22501 tree and time framing. Kelly Wheaton Vanessa van der Beke Jan Tripp †