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New 2012:
I- M223 (VIKINGS) Study webpage - Results chart
at

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/M223-Y-Clan

We now have 4 PAXTANG ELDER kits posted in their
I = IslesSc SNP category:
Heading: 1.4.2.1- M223- (IslesSc/I2b1a1) - SNP list: M284, L1195, L126, L137, L369
Kit #17814
Ancestors:
1. ROBERT ELDER, b. 1679 Scotland
2. ROBERT, b. 1704
3. ROBERT, 1732 -1790 Elder's Ridge
4. ROBERT, 1767 -1813 Elder's Ridge
5. ROBERT, 1809 -1869 Elder's Ridge
at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nancyelder/RobertYElder.htm

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Kit #15534
Ancestors:
1. ROBERT ELDER, b 1679 Scotland; d 28 Jul 1746 Paxtang Twp., Dauphin Co., PA.
2. THOMAS, b 1708 Scotland; d Jul 1752, Paxtang Twp., Dauphin Co., PA.
3. ROBERT, b abt 1748, prob. Dauphin Co., PA; d 3 Oct 1825 Clark Co., OH.
4. THOMAS, b. 6 Apr 1795, Dauphin Co., PA; d 18 Oct 1871, Clark Co., OH.
5. JOHN A., b. 24 Feb 1827, Green Twp., Clark Co., OH; d 24 Mar 1909, Kenton, Hardin Co., OH.
at
Google E-Book: "Pennsylvania Genealogies,"
page 151 Elder Family:

http://books.google.com/books/about/Pennsylvania_Genealogies.html?id=d7_akH9VO_cC
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Kit #15134
Ancestors:
1. JOHN ELDER, b. 1660 Midlothian, Scotland
2. JOHN, b. 1690 Antrim Co Ireland
3. HENRY, b. 1735 Garvagh, Co Londonderry, Ireland, d. 1817 Ireland
4. MATTHEW, b. 1775 Londonderry, Ireland, d. 1861 Iowa
5. HENRY (II) , b. 1817 Garvagh, Co Derry, d. 1902 Iowa
at WorldConnect

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1697853&id=I77236695

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Kit #75444
Ancestors:
ROBERT ELDER (1836-1910) Inch Island, Co. Donegal
Others immigr. to Saskatchewan
Inch Island ELDER webpage:
at

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~inchelder/index.html

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2nd ELDER category of I-M223 Chart:
1.4.2.1.1 -M223.L1195>L126,L137,L369 (IslesSc Group1/I2b1a1
for:
Kit #50076 William Hoyt ELDER of Spartanburg, SC

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3rd ELDER/ELDERS category of I-M223 Chart
1.1.2.2>L1229>Z2054(RootsGroup2b/446=9, 531=12
for
Kit #219446 McKinder ELDERS b. 1830 TN (possibly from Yorkshire, Eng)

Others in same category, located in Northants, Northhampton, Eng.
(conquered by Danish Vikings of York)
and Darlington name in Cheshire, Eng.
See Darlington DNA project - on Darlington Genforum by Glenn Darlingtonof Perth Australia
E-mail:
glenndarlington@gmail.com
at
http://genforum.genealogy.com/darlington/messages/534.html
..."We share a DNA Haplogroup called I2b1 which is quite rare and has its origins in southern Denmark / Northern Germany as early as 4,000 years ago and as late as 600 years ago and definitely shared a common ancestor 1,000 years ago in Cheshire."
..."Edward Darlingtone of Yorkshire, was listed in the Yorkshire Poll Tax of 1379"

More Notes:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/AlvinMartinELDERS.htm

Also see DNA VIKING study by Dr. Turi KING
in the lab of Professor Mark Jobling at the University of Leicester.
at

http://www2.le.ac.uk/projects/impact-of-diasporas/diasporas-projects/surnames-and-the-y-chromosome/the-viking-dna-project

Qualifications: "A man whose father’s father was born in the county of Cumbria, Lancashire, Cheshire, Yorkshire, Durham or Northumberland and that you have one of the surnames that are thought to be ‘northern’ surnames. (Includes "ELDERS with an S" of Yorkshire)."

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2011:
Scottish  DNA project - YDNA  charts -   new labels
 from University of Strathclyde in Glasgow - Host, Bruce  Durie

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/scottishdna

kit #  - 27 ELDER kit numbers now posted on Scottish DNA pages (April 7, 2011):

Group:  I2b1     
75444    (Paxtang PA) (Viking- Isles - Paxtang PA)
15534    (Paxtang PA)    "
50076    (Paxtang PA/Spartanburg SC - Stewart match 66/67)

Group:  J2  -  Scotland
188265  (Elder/Dorsey of Maryland- Donna Logan's family)
12883    (Elder/Dorsey of Maryland - Donna Logan's family)

Group: R1b1a2
110746     ( Z02  - "Elder/Rose")
16176        (Franklin Co PA and NC)
114538      (Franklin Co PA and NC)
172862      (Colin Elder, b 1740 Res. Isle of Skye)
30720        (Z01 - Elder/McClelland in Scotland Borders)
171586      (Franklin Co PA and KY)
187668      (Franklin Co PA and AL)
155942      (Z04 - Pittenweem, Fife)
35714        (Peter Elder of VA)
20923        (Maine)
14778      (Franklin Co PA)
12747      (Franklin Co PA)
10261      (Franklin Co PA)
29820      (Franklin Co PA)
18545      (Franklin Co PA)
132709    (Franklin Co PA)
198463     DENNY (Wm/James) Scotland
16874      (Z09 -Ireland/Somerset Co PA)
222304    (Franklin Co PA - SpartanburgSC)
206886    (Franklin Co PA - Lycoming Co PA)
6095        (Franklin Co PA - Rowe)
88750      (Franklin Co PA - McPherson)

Group: R1b1a2a1a1b  (P312+) [S116+]  -  (green, confirmed by Deep Clade test)
12898   Clarion Co PA/Franklin Co PA
10042   Franklin Co PA (SCOTLAND) - (Nancy's brother)

Group: R1b1a2a1a14a (L47+)[S170+]   (green)
26383       ( Z3  - "Elder/Fox of TN")

Group: R1b1a2a1a1b4b (M222+) Includes Niall  (green)
12969  Raleigh Elder (NC)


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SCOTLAND DNA PROJECT, by Katherine Hope Borges

http://www.ourfamilyorigins.com/scotland/dna.htm
ELDER entries:
R1b chart- COLLA UAIS-Scotland Founder--Green box (and YSEARCH CODES)

#15696 - Andrew, b. 1795 NC ----8W2NK
#16176 - John, residing Iredell NC 1800--G5CPF
          begins 13 24 14 10 10
         (matches Franklin Co PA - 11/12, but not 3rd marker)
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#74613 - Bedford Co PA
            begins 13 24 14 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 (then mismatches)
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#30720 - Robert, b. 1785 Selkirk Borders ---GGTHC
         begins:   13 24 14 10 11 14  12 12 12 13 (then mismatches)
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#37194 - Joseph Elder, VA ---5VXEU
         begins: "13 24 14 11 11"
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#12786 - Peter Elder, VA - --DSEME
#12593 - Peter Elder, VA - --QB3QZ
#42193 - Peter Elder, VA ---6XK6G
         begins "13 24 14 11 11 14"
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#20923 - KY--VESHU
#23005 - Maine/Mississippi--44T97
         begins: 13 24 14 11 11
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ELDER of Franklin Co PA -
         (begins 13 24 15 10 10)
#12898 ------(Clarion Co PA)--ENUZ2
#29820-------(Mercer Co PA----NNG6K)
#38776 ------(Northern Scotland) (Sutherland)
#6095 -------(Canada)---------RF5ZB
#44209------ (Beaver Co PA)----XHYEC
#18545 ------(Franklin Co PA)--4BEG6
#65388 ------(Co Donegal Ire)--ZTNS9 (Davis)
#10042 ------(Franklin Co PA)--4GJ7K
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#12969 --  Andrew, b. 1795 NC ---D8M7X  (NIALL - R1b1c7)      
           begins: 13 25 14 11 11 13 12 12 13 13 14  29
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#16874 --  Somerset Co PA--PD6EQ (no Elder matches)
         begins:  13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 14 13  30  (mismatch - 5 of 12)
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I-Isles (VIKING) chart (Click Lavender Box) - matching PAXTANG PA
         begins "15 24 15 10 15"
#15134--22ZFR - Ballymoney, Co Antrim
#15534--BD9XM - Paxtang, PA
#17814--K8N87 - Elder's Ridge, PA - Paxtang PA
#50076--CA9R5 - Spartanburg, SC--Stewart #5830 and others match 66/67
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ULSTER DNA chart:

http://www.ulsterheritage.com
Choose the 6th menu item on left: "UH DNA PROJECT"
       then subhead: DNA TEST RESULTS

1st ELDER Section:
Barry titled: "ELDER CLAN"
Nancy titled:  "Franklin Co PA"
#10042, 10277, 20638, 18545, 29820, 10261, 12898, 78241, 85035, 88041, 114538,132709

2nd ELDER Section:
Barry titled: "ELDER FAMILY"
Nancy titled: "MAINE" --(MISSISSIPPI/NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE, ENG/ KY)
#23005, #87786, #20923

3rd Elder Section:
Barry titled: "ELDER FAMILY II"
Nancy titled: "Glasgow #76740 (Londonderry),
                   and #37194(Joseph b 1749VA)

4th Elder Section:
Barry titled: "ANTRIM ELDER" - "I"=Isles
Nancy titled: "PAXTANG" ELDER (added #75444-Inch Island)

also:
1 Elder-Irish NIALL "R1b1c7: #12969
1 Rock Clan ELDER #74613
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