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20 kits have all 67 markers (December 2009)
Franklin Co PA...= 5
Maine............= 4
Paxtang..........= 1
Peter Elder......= 2
Wm (Catholic)....= 3
Z1-Turner........= 1 (Also McClelland 66/67)
Z3- Fox (Eng)....= 1
Z4 - Aberdeen....= 2
J2 - Ire & Eng...= 1
May 2010
75 ELDER DNA kits are now divided into at least
6 separate groups by their DNA matches,
plus others that don't match any ELDER group.
1. FRANKLIN CO PA group: 26 matching entries
Includes known descendants
of "ROBERT ELDER d. 1807 FRANKLIN CO PA."
Also includes 5 descendants of
"GEORGE ELDER, d. 1800 Bedford Co PA,"
and one known descendant of
"DAVID ELDER and MARGERY STEWART" - FRANKLIN CO PA.
(Those 3 Rev. War Soldiers could be brothers.)
Others matching:
JAMES ELDER SR. of Clarion Co PA
JOHN ELDER, Mercer Co PA
JOHN ELDER, Beaver Co PA
JAMES AND JOHN ELDER of RANDOLPH CO NC
ANDREW R. ELDER- March 15,1795 -July 1854 in Alexander County, NC
JOHN ELDER, res. Iredell Co NC 1800
SAMUEL ELDER, Sevier Co TN
JACOB ELDER d. 1818 Lincoln Co KY
JOHN ELDER, b. abt 1814 NC
JAMES ELDER, d. 1991 WI
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2. GLASGOW group: 5 Newly traced Descendants from Scotland.
(Not matching other ELDER lines)
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3. MAINE ELDER group (4 entries):
#23005
A. SAMUEL TYNG ELDER (matches 12/12, 35/37, 64/67 with England)
b. 1784 Portland, Cumberland, ME,
d. 1829 Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS
#20923
B. ANDREW ELDER d. 1807 Madison Co., KY
#87786
C. ALEXANDER ELDER,b. 1796, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
#100589
D. GEORGE ELDER (b. 1811 E. Anstruther, Fife - d. Ontario, Canada)
JOHN ELDER (b. 1769 Crail, Fife)
may be related to JOHN ELDER, b. 1806 Crail, Fife - immigr. NJ/CT
****
4. PAXTANG PA: 8 entries
ANCESTOR and RELATIVE:
A."ROBERT ELDER, b. 1679 Scotland-- d. PAXTANG PA" (3 entries)
[his son "Rev. John ELDER of PAXTANG"]
[Excellent Descendant's paper trail with DNA to match this
very different "I = VIKING HAPLOGROUP"]
B."Robert Scott ELDER" --his ELDER family still lives in
ELDERS RIDGE PA--they have an ELDER family BIBLE to
prove he is the 10th ROBERT in the PAXTANG line.
C. JOHN ELDER of BALLYMONEY, Co. ANTRIM, Northern Ireland (2)
D. ROBERT ELDER of Inch Island, Co. Donegal, Ireland
E. Robert H. ELDER, b. abt 1828 Indiana Co PA
d. 1892 Dallas County Iowa
F. William Hoyt Elder, b. 1867, Spartanburg, SC
matches 66/67-- STEWART #5830, 36246, etc.
****
5. PETER ELDER of VA group: 8 entries
Excellent paper trails for these matching entries.
(Lee ELDER book)
****
6. WILLIAM ELDER (Catholic of Frederick Co MD): 7 entries
Excellent paper trail for 4 of these matching entries.
Other ELDER researchers have known CATHOLIC paper trails.
7. More Different ELDER DNA in file which doesn't match any ELDER,
some of them in Scotland!
****
Percentages of certain matches as calculated by FamilyTreeDNA:
Entry #1 through #17 have a common ancestor (probably in Scotland):
10042 "Robert Elder (1730-1807) Franklin Co PA"
with everyone who has 12 markers
14778 - (Bedford).................. 91.41
15696 - (North Carolina)........... 69.69
10042 with everyone who has 25 markers
29820 - (Mercer Co.).............. 97.91
34317 - (Franklin Co)............. 97.91
10277 - (North Carolina).......... 90.06
57827 - (Sylvester, Ohio).......... 91.57
20638 - (KY) .......................91.57
13706 - (Sevier Co TN)............. 80.03
16176 - (North Carolina) .......... 79.68
23663 - (Sevier Co) ................80.03
10042 with everyone who has 37 markers
10261 - (North Carolina).......... 99.28
12747 - (Bedford) .................... 99.26
18545 - (Franklin)...................... 99.87
6095 - (Canada)....................... 96.68
12898 - (Clarion Co PA)............. 91.41
Not related:
24196 - (Scotland)....................... 6.4
15400 -(Scotland)........................ 6.89
12786 -(Peter Elder, Virginia) .....1.99
42193 - (Peter Elder, Virginia)...... .91
42193 -(Catholic, Maryland) ....... .64
37194 - (Sullivan Co TN).............. .18
Paxtang PA
15134...............................................00
15534 ............................................ .00
17814............................................. .00
***
2/11/06 - Native Scot, M. ELDER sent his
National Geographic DNA results,
matching 10/12 with Franklin Co PA group:
In FTDNA order:
13 24 14 10 8 14 12 12 12 13 13 29
Genealogy of entry for "mtDNA U5a #25495" chart below
1. Mary Darby b. abt.1755 d.abt.1832 Rutherford Co. TN
2. Mary Towler b. 1780 VA, d. 1865 Gibson Co. TN
3. Mary Elder b. 1805 TN, d. aft. 1850 Gibson Co. TN
4. Fannie W. Chrisp b. 1836 TN, d. 1908 Gibson Co. TN
***
Member access to PA ARCHIVES, Bible image for John ELDER (1762-1835)
of Chester, Northumberland, Centre co PA:
http://www.footnote.com/image/17564066
More PA Archives Stories:
http://www.footnote.com/storypages/NancyElderPetersen
Franklin Co PA...= 5
Maine............= 4
Paxtang..........= 1
Peter Elder......= 2
Wm (Catholic)....= 3
Z1-Turner........= 1 (Also McClelland 66/67)
Z3- Fox (Eng)....= 1
Z4 - Aberdeen....= 2
J2 - Ire & Eng...= 1
May 2010
75 ELDER DNA kits are now divided into at least
6 separate groups by their DNA matches,
plus others that don't match any ELDER group.
1. FRANKLIN CO PA group: 26 matching entries
Includes known descendants
of "ROBERT ELDER d. 1807 FRANKLIN CO PA."
Also includes 5 descendants of
"GEORGE ELDER, d. 1800 Bedford Co PA,"
and one known descendant of
"DAVID ELDER and MARGERY STEWART" - FRANKLIN CO PA.
(Those 3 Rev. War Soldiers could be brothers.)
Others matching:
JAMES ELDER SR. of Clarion Co PA
JOHN ELDER, Mercer Co PA
JOHN ELDER, Beaver Co PA
JAMES AND JOHN ELDER of RANDOLPH CO NC
ANDREW R. ELDER- March 15,1795 -July 1854 in Alexander County, NC
JOHN ELDER, res. Iredell Co NC 1800
SAMUEL ELDER, Sevier Co TN
JACOB ELDER d. 1818 Lincoln Co KY
JOHN ELDER, b. abt 1814 NC
JAMES ELDER, d. 1991 WI
****
2. GLASGOW group: 5 Newly traced Descendants from Scotland.
(Not matching other ELDER lines)
****
3. MAINE ELDER group (4 entries):
#23005
A. SAMUEL TYNG ELDER (matches 12/12, 35/37, 64/67 with England)
b. 1784 Portland, Cumberland, ME,
d. 1829 Moss Point, Jackson Co., MS
#20923
B. ANDREW ELDER d. 1807 Madison Co., KY
#87786
C. ALEXANDER ELDER,b. 1796, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
#100589
D. GEORGE ELDER (b. 1811 E. Anstruther, Fife - d. Ontario, Canada)
JOHN ELDER (b. 1769 Crail, Fife)
may be related to JOHN ELDER, b. 1806 Crail, Fife - immigr. NJ/CT
****
4. PAXTANG PA: 8 entries
ANCESTOR and RELATIVE:
A."ROBERT ELDER, b. 1679 Scotland-- d. PAXTANG PA" (3 entries)
[his son "Rev. John ELDER of PAXTANG"]
[Excellent Descendant's paper trail with DNA to match this
very different "I = VIKING HAPLOGROUP"]
B."Robert Scott ELDER" --his ELDER family still lives in
ELDERS RIDGE PA--they have an ELDER family BIBLE to
prove he is the 10th ROBERT in the PAXTANG line.
C. JOHN ELDER of BALLYMONEY, Co. ANTRIM, Northern Ireland (2)
D. ROBERT ELDER of Inch Island, Co. Donegal, Ireland
E. Robert H. ELDER, b. abt 1828 Indiana Co PA
d. 1892 Dallas County Iowa
F. William Hoyt Elder, b. 1867, Spartanburg, SC
matches 66/67-- STEWART #5830, 36246, etc.
****
5. PETER ELDER of VA group: 8 entries
Excellent paper trails for these matching entries.
(Lee ELDER book)
****
6. WILLIAM ELDER (Catholic of Frederick Co MD): 7 entries
Excellent paper trail for 4 of these matching entries.
Other ELDER researchers have known CATHOLIC paper trails.
7. More Different ELDER DNA in file which doesn't match any ELDER,
some of them in Scotland!
****
Percentages of certain matches as calculated by FamilyTreeDNA:
Entry #1 through #17 have a common ancestor (probably in Scotland):
10042 "Robert Elder (1730-1807) Franklin Co PA"
with everyone who has 12 markers
14778 - (Bedford).................. 91.41
15696 - (North Carolina)........... 69.69
10042 with everyone who has 25 markers
29820 - (Mercer Co.).............. 97.91
34317 - (Franklin Co)............. 97.91
10277 - (North Carolina).......... 90.06
57827 - (Sylvester, Ohio).......... 91.57
20638 - (KY) .......................91.57
13706 - (Sevier Co TN)............. 80.03
16176 - (North Carolina) .......... 79.68
23663 - (Sevier Co) ................80.03
10042 with everyone who has 37 markers
10261 - (North Carolina).......... 99.28
12747 - (Bedford) .................... 99.26
18545 - (Franklin)...................... 99.87
6095 - (Canada)....................... 96.68
12898 - (Clarion Co PA)............. 91.41
Not related:
24196 - (Scotland)....................... 6.4
15400 -(Scotland)........................ 6.89
12786 -(Peter Elder, Virginia) .....1.99
42193 - (Peter Elder, Virginia)...... .91
42193 -(Catholic, Maryland) ....... .64
37194 - (Sullivan Co TN).............. .18
Paxtang PA
15134...............................................00
15534 ............................................ .00
17814............................................. .00
***
2/11/06 - Native Scot, M. ELDER sent his
National Geographic DNA results,
matching 10/12 with Franklin Co PA group:
In FTDNA order:
13 24 14 10 8 14 12 12 12 13 13 29
Genealogy of entry for "mtDNA U5a #25495" chart below
1. Mary Darby b. abt.1755 d.abt.1832 Rutherford Co. TN
2. Mary Towler b. 1780 VA, d. 1865 Gibson Co. TN
3. Mary Elder b. 1805 TN, d. aft. 1850 Gibson Co. TN
4. Fannie W. Chrisp b. 1836 TN, d. 1908 Gibson Co. TN
***
Member access to PA ARCHIVES, Bible image for John ELDER (1762-1835)
of Chester, Northumberland, Centre co PA:
http://www.footnote.com/image/17564066
More PA Archives Stories:
http://www.footnote.com/storypages/NancyElderPetersen