This is an experimental project with the goal of developing the branches of the J-M267 haplotree and investigating the J1-ZS241 clades, their history, distribution, and genealogy. BEFORE joining this project, please check your haplotree and make sure you are positive or predicted positive for the SNP J1-ZS241. Haplogroup J1-ZS241 is estimated to be approximately between 4860 - 4484 years old. If you are predicted J1-M267 (in red), and/or have not tested SNPs, please join the J1 YDNA Project. https://www.familytreedna.com/public/J-M267 If you have not already done so, please login to your FTDNA account, enter your most distant ancestor on the male line, where, and when he lived. This will further the research and help other researchers connect. You can find your terminal SNP in the J1Phylogenetic tree. http://genogenea.com/J-M267/tree (To search or look into it easily, open it as a PDF file or with ebook. J1-ZS241 is on page 1) Questions/Answers 1. Why does FTDNA tell me my terminal SNP is one thing, ex. P-58, but the cluster I'm in says something different? The reason is because we can predict a deeper terminal SNP using your STR markers through phylogenetic analysis. 2. Should I order a SNP, SNP Pack, or BigY? Please check your placement on the J1-ZS241 Tree here on this site. Your cluster or grouping will indicate at the top what is the recommended next step. If you are still unsure, please check with project administrators. 3. How do I order? *Login to your account. *Click: Order Upgrade on the menu bar. *Click on Order an Advanced Test. *Search for correct SNP or SNP pack. **If you receive a message from FTDNA that your choice of tests is not correct, please ignore or contact administrators if you are unsure.