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Big Y and 111 Marker tests have added a couple of wrinkles to our understanding. Not sure how to interpret this yet, but the first run of my 111/Big YDNA results indicate that I am more closely related to John YB father of Isaac, Joshua, Abraham of 1760s GA. As FTDNA hones their algorithm, the closeness has changed. Again, the randomness of the sequence of mutations, the foundation of this technology is a new procedure that will learn with more data going forward.
With the release of a cost effective YDNA 67/111 marker test....we have seen a couple of things interesting, but have not distinguished any direct marker mutation that clears up any branches, that is , allowing us to identify “descendants of certain brothers”. Maybe one day as we get more tests in, we will have more clarity..... we have found a mutation in the PURPLE group that appears to define descendants of the Peter c1732-88 of Barnwell…sons Samuel and Lewisc1760-1808 (and Joseph) that distinguishes between descendants of Peter c1725-c1797 of Edgefield (who also had a son Lewis c1760-c1822). We still have not confirmed a descendant by YDNA test of Peter C1732's son Joseph- assumed to be the same. So I am modifying the terminology going forward…adding a PURPLE/35 branch where members have a mutation at marker 35 seen in many trees and family histories.
For reading below, note the following:
GREEN YDNA pattern is for John Miles YB SRc1708 and Henry Miles YB c1730, John Miles YB JRc1734 of St Georges, Baltimore MD, James YB c1738? and Thomas YBc1736-1808 of all Johnston Co, NC (YDNA matches PURPLE c42/67 YDNA genetic markers)
PURPLE YDNA pattern is for Peter c1725 and sons Jacob c1750; Lewis, Abraham and George; (Peter had a brother and a son John) (DAR records)
PURPLE/35 YDNA pattern is for Peter c1732 and sons Samuel c1754 (DAR records),Lewis and Joseph; (YDNA matches PURPLE 65/67 YDNA genetic markers)
BLUE YDNA pattern is for James c1740-1792 (DAR Records) (YDNA matches PURPLE 64/67 YDNA genetic markers) **Note this James is not the James - son of John Miles YB above-two distinct men
GRAY YDNA pattern is for Thomas c1745-1822 (DAR Records) (YDNA matches PURPLE 65/67 YDNA genetic markers) **Note this Thomas is not the Thomas- son of John Miles YB above-two distinct men
BLUE and GRAY match 65-66/67 YDNA markers
A key to understanding these families is that PURPLEs, BLUE and GRAY are ONE family…with distinct 1 or 2 Mutations of 37 and 67 that are significant to point to specific “sons or grandsons” of a common ancestor as yet an unproven unknown Youngblood c1700 or few generations earlier. GREEN is a different male line family…At DNA takes into account male and female lines and can blur or confuse linkages this far back in time and generations.
As you review the information below, you will note that there are more instances of what I call “No Match” than I actually expected going into this project. These are Youngbloods who match none of the patterns above. The generic term is NPE – non-parental event. We have identified adoptions by a Youngblood family. We have identified Youngbloods being adopted by non-Youngblood surname parents. We have identified “take ins” – children brought into family when nearby family’s parents die with young sons. We believe we have seen young married women with young sons whose husband had died and she remarried a Youngblood male with the young sons taking the Youngblood name even though of a non-0Youngblood fatbher. We have identified OOW – Out of wedlock sons born to Youngblood females and out of wedlock sons of non-surname female Youngbloods whose father was a Youngblood. As I have said often, I was in the time frame that was said to have ‘invented” sex in the 60’s. Obviously not. We have found children of Youngbloods and female slaves and numerous slave families after the WAR who took as their own the Youngblood name.
Some of these No Matches go back to the 1700’s when times were really tough on families; there were many wars and much death from disease before current day medicines. We have tracked some back to the 1850’s and yes some into the 1900s. So many interesting stories in each of these occurrences.
For now, here at the beginning, I have the proof necessary to call folks at the Old Lebanon Church reunion in Youngblood, AL, Pike County...each August COUSIN and know it is right. And many of my new friends at the Good Hope Baptist Church.
Also, with a match of 35/37 65/67 YDNA genetic markers to Dorothy Quaife’s BLUE line....these too are cousins I did not anticipate....as well as Thomas Kelly Youngblood of NC via SC whose Peter YB 1732 I too can call cousin. PURPLE/35 matching 64/67 YDNA genetic markers.
Of
course, a little disappointment in finding the Rev. Bill and Benny who I have
corresponded with over the many years....are from a YDNA unrelated paternal
line (John Miles YB 1708 GREEN). We know these two lines many
times traveled similar paths...we expect we will find intermarriage and
relationships do exist... but the YDNA is dramatically different.
My special thanks to Herbert Hoover “Hub” Youngblood and Ann for all the help
and kindness to "these folks from Texas they did not even
know".....my first match to his James 1809 and started this little storm
of interest. (We lost Hub just before the reunion. My trips to
Youngblood Alabama just won't be the same.)
We have identified now at least two distinct SC/GA lines of Youngbloods – one line with 4 identifiable branches… and some who do not match these two lines. I may at times refer to two lines...GREEN and GRAY/BLUE/PURPLE as these "NON_GREEN or PURPLE" lines are really one line with slight marker mutations over time...i.e., this is one group or line with 3 distinct branches.
The “Non Matches” are from various Haplo Groups and we expect are from young male adoptions, take ins, OOWs of female Youngbloods, Guardians who changed name to Youngblood. We have proved some of these, but we do not have answers for all YDNA test members.
We have submitted enough 37 marker tests to compare in more detail to the five identified lines and branches. This will prepare us to better understand what the additional information is able to tell us so the project may communicate to all where an individual upgrade may be advantageous to the project.
We have seen at this time that the 12 marker test will define clearly which line
one belongs. The 25 and 37 marker tests will provide a generational timeframe
(ie, 7 generations or 12 generations better educated guess) and distinguish
better the various branches.
We have enough 67 marker test results to show that for now beyond 37 markers does not show any dramatic changes among the GRAY/BLUE/PURPLE lines though one marker clearly changes among the sub lines.
See Detail below....
We have YDNA results in from the Charleston SC Youngblood group. There three trains of thought in this bunch – “GREEN, PURPLE or None of the above”... c1770 to 1830 time frame before moving to Dallas County AL where many remain today. This is very exciting news. This group of Youngbloods traces their line through William and Peter back to the Peter Jungblut/Youngblood who was naturalized along with his children in 1739 giving Germany as his homeland – some say Palatinate. He is often referred to as the PA/MD Peter Youngblood. Now we do not have a perfect confirmation (to my third degree) of this lineage... this information is based on the research of Georgia Keyser Youngblood completed back in the 1950s. We must have all hands pull this new information into their analysis of their family's written histories, Bibles and wills to clarify the picture with this new information.
Now we very much need to find a descendant of Johannes Jungblut/Youngblood of Orange County, New York who also recorded that he was from Palatinate, Germany. Our family book referred to this group as "cousins" but this has not been proven as of yet. If you know any Youngbloods from this Rev. War Youngblood, please have them contact me or sign up immediately for our YDNA project.
[Made contact with two descendants who were not interested in our project or being tested… we look for more]
You may want to read this from the bottom if this is your first reading of the project to understand how the Project progressed. Originally, we only had 12 markers tests and the explained theory was that if there was an 11/12 or a 12/12 YDNA genetic match and the surname was Youngblood, then there was a common ancestor within the last 250 years. Our test results fit well to this 12/12theory and 37/67/111 marker tests help us see distinctions between branches.
I will try update better and more often on this page as results come in. As you will see by date, we are dramatically slowing down on new participation after 16 years dramatically…BUT there are still many unresolved relationships of our YBs back to PA…and on back to Germany
B Youngblood - We expected his results would be Perfect Purple or Purple/35 based on dob, living locations, and timeframe..etc. Yes there were a few BLUE and GRAY in that area…but we did not get a match…close but puzzling. Still digging here, Need help from family…It may be necessary to get FTDNA to re-test with second sample.
Marcelo Young Blood - The Brazilian Youngblood connection is to the BLUE Youngblood branch of James YB c1740-91. Based on their knowledge of their immigrant to Brazil , one of our most perplexing Youngblood mysteries has new light and I feel is resolved.
Scott Arthur youngblood – Scott has an 11/12 match to descendants of Hardaway YB which historically given the same surname and an 11/12 match a connect could be made…but then in the next 25 markers the connection was ruled out by the number of differing mutations. Curious. Since I cannot explain this, I will ask for a review and a re-test with the second sample.
Roy Garland Youngblood – PURPLE – Peter YB c1725-1795 SC; Abraham YB c1760; Seaborn YB c1790; John Marshallc1822/Rebecca Capehart, George c1852, James H c1885/Etta Virginia; Bill YB1917; R G YB c1943…
Drew Douglas Youngblood – Drew’s results are the most curious I have seen in 17 years. I will ask FTDNA to Re-evaluate his sample…and / or test sample number 2 or both
Gary Lee Youngblood - Gary’s YDNA supports his tree matching him to two other Youngbloods from the VA/WVA line of Youngbloods that I referto as the AQUA line of Youngbloods. This is a separate, distinct line from the PA/NC/SC Youngblood family.
LA Youngblood - This is me testing again. Why? My original YDNA test showed a mutation, as did 5 of the first 6 Youngblood YDNA members…given it was an “insignificant” marker mutation by vendor support, I had asked that my test be re-evaluated. Vendor essentially said that “they made no mistake“ with my original marker number report. I then addressed my concern and questioned publicly at the Annual Meeting and was told “Let’s take that up later”. So I submitted a completely new sample under a different name figuring that spending another $170 was better than continuing to argue with the vendor. My concern of an error was confirmed with the second test…and my results along with the other members who tested early in the project were re-evaluated and the results were changed. Of course, now as you look at the YDNA marker display, these errors will no longer be seen.
I am not suggesting that everyone should retest if one feels the results are incorrect. I will be happy to talk to anyone if their results are not as expected and make recommendations. My first would be to find a 1st or 2nd cousin surname to take the test. Then we can continue from there.
Scott Youngblood – Scott’s tree is supported by his YDNA result. PURPLE/35
Samuel Darrell Youngblood – His lineage is suggested by YDNA back to James Walker YB c1812. We have not confirmed the connection of JW YB c1812 to a SC family… work continues…need more info and a completed tree from member.
Michael Rae Youngblood Kit No. MK62798 Haplogroup I. No YDNA matches….this is a different unique line of European Youngbloods. Andre Floyd YB c1909 – 1987. Look forward to learning more of this line.
Michael Curtis YB – When I first talked to this Michael, I expected based on what he knew of his family and where they lived that he would test PURPLE/35 based on the area of SC that he had tracked his family and I had confirmed…one of those surprises that I have yet to resolve… He matches me 109/111 YDNA genetic markers and has only 1 Private Variant with me- GRAY, so he is in my family somewhere. . Still digging here. Help
Wm P YB – Research suggested he was in the line of James YB c1740 – BLUE YDNA profile… Testconfirmed BLUE.
Lost Line Found…
John Jackson"Jack" Youngblood 1843–1920 dob 11 JUN 1843 • Pike,Alabama, USA dod 10 APR 1920 • Bethel Cemetery
Many Ancestry Tree lists his father as "UNKNOWN"...Some say John Waters YB…but not true… I have now his father and Youngblood line back to c1715....Will be happy to send documentation via email... Only took my dad and me 40 plus years to find him...never thought I would... Wish my dad had been here to enjoy finding another branch of our "Lost Line of Pike CO, AL" Youngbloods.
Ancestry DNA test found another person who had John Jackson YB lineage to current date... I had him and his father back to Colonial times... had lost him when he moved from MS to "somewhere" c1858.
The book is out-The Colonial Youngblood YDNA Project, but I will have to add a John Jackson Youngblood Family - brothers, sisters, and father's update before I can't...this is my family...His father and two of his father's brothers died in the Lincoln's War along with a brother Thomas.
This was the first result from a clue from Autosomal DNA test results. Given the controversy of who is his father with the Dry Prong Youngbloods, a YDNA test will be of little value as who they have as his father and who I have as his father will have the exact same YDNA…at this stage, it’s all about the paper work.
Larry Youngblood Lyoungblood9@comcast.net
J Earl YB – His tree tracked to James T Youngblood and James Jonathan YB but the wrong one as there were two James Jonathan’s one in Warren Co, TN and one in Lowndes Co, AL…both these are GREEN YDNA profile. Alabama is the family of Jacob YBc1765-c1834 and Sarah Brantley.
M A Youngblood - NPE identified. 118+ matches to another surname - Campbell.
J E YB – Paperwork tracked to Asa YB c1795, Elijah c1824…many have connected him to Joseph YBc1760 PURPLE/35… He did not match PURPLE/35 or any YB YDNA profile that we currently have. New YB or an NPE? One “No Match” does not a misconnection make…the NPE could be anywhere along the branch. We need another member from this branch along a different path. (12/2022 – inaccurate tree back to Asa…so mismatch is understandable)
Dr T H Youngblood – tracks his line back to Peter YB c1732-88. PURPLE/35 YDNA supports this but there is a mutation that we have seen but once before that might suggest we need to review and look closer again.
D W Youngblood – This remains one of our unconfirmed back to Geo J c1841…He tested GREEN YDNA as expected based on locations and time frame…but as yet we have not confirmed his father…Help. I tried to tie him to Solomon YB who died in Goliad during the Texas Revolution from Mexico. I wa?s unsuccessful at this digging. Abimelech of GA
Larry W Youngblood – Based on his research he had confirmed Robertson S YB c1825 the older brother of my GRAY Wm LYB c1833…so we expected GRAY YDNA profile and it was confirmed (37/37 genetic marker match).
L L Youngblood - Expected PURPLE and the test did confirm this. He has one mutation that appears not to be significant…just a random until we see a trend. He also has a second mutation that appears to be significant as no one else has it. May help us in the future define a certain branch.
J R Youngblood – Expected PURPLE and the test did confirm this. He has one mutation that appears not to be significant…just a random until we see a trend.
Wm L YB tracks back to Benjamin YB c1773 but YDNA profile does not match the color Profiles we have. He does match exactly the YDNA of Troy YB. a descendant of the older brother of Wm L’s line. Autosomal DNA suggests a dna share which may mean Benjamin was a son of a daughter of a or a young son of a 2nd marriage to a male surname YB.
Claborne Youngblood – Expected PURPLE/35 and the test did confirm this.
Shane YB – I had been tracking this line since the January 2015 result of a Youngblood who tested PURPLE trying to find a member to test as there was some controversy within the Texas YB researchers of this line who moved to California. Shane’s results confirmed the controversy and led us to the correct answer that was confirmed by another YDNA test from Shane’s line in February 2018. The descendant of a PURPLE female and a non- surname Youngblood male father.
T B YB Jr – He had tracked his line to Jonathan Wm YB which we have found went back to Henry Miles YB and John Miles YBc1708… so we expected him to test GREEN and he did…confirming his research and lineage.
J O YB’s results were awaited with great anticipation. We had tracked him back to Andrew YB of Edgefield thought to be the brother of my Thomas YB c1745 (GRAY) by relevant land records. When he came in a match to PURPLE…all the land records had to be re-evaluated. A possible significant finding for Bennett YB and Amos Caril YB whose father we still call unknown. This was one of my fun tracking projects as I heard/had smidgeons of J O moving to the NW so I posted a message to all young Youngbloods on FB back when you could do this and asked it their father or grandfather was a J O YB. His grandson responded. At 90 years plus, he was sharp as a tack and actually remembered his grandfather verifying all the digging we in the research group had theorized.
Jackie Parkes - She-her dad - tracked to Daniel c1802 of VA(WVA) ; we expect AQUA and the test confirm this expectation. Always makes me nervous when a female signs up for a YDNA test.
Ancel K YB expected GREEN and tested GREEN to confirm. He is stepping up to BIG Y 700
J L YB –He had a good track on his family back to Abraham YB c1769 our PURPLE group…confirming again that this branch was not in the loine of John Miles YB JR c1734 as he tested PURPLE with no spurious mutations.
Carol Walker signed up for a YDNA test and I thought to myself…she does not understand YDNA is for males only…so I forgot about it…when the results came in…”She” matched me exactly so I understood that she must have submitted a sample for a male YB and called to get the detail of that male. (This was back before privacy rules took my ability away to see phone numbers and addresses among other features of being an Admin.) He is a descendant of my great grandfather’s brother…Wm Franklin YB c 1862 son of Wm L YBc1833 of Jacob Jr c1795 of Jacob Src1770 of Thomas YB c1745 and Amy Hopkins.
D G YB – He tracked back to Isaiah I YB c1794 GA to IL…some said he was PURPLE; some said GREEN…paper and migration path I had said GREEN. He was in the Milledgeville, GA area where both branches were known to be. He tested GREEN… The paperwork unverified even still … stated he was the son of William YB c1740 which would be in the time frame to be a son of John Miles YB but no other record exists of this relationship… but he is GREEN YDNA profile no doubt.
L David YB – In searching around the country for another WVA/VA YB member to test– I found one in my neighborhood. I researched his line and discovered the connection and his YDNA confirmed AQUA family….Thomas c1770 of PA. This is a distinct line of YBs.
R P YB came forward with a pretty clear path to our PURPLE branch paperwork Ephraim, John, Samuel c1754and Peter c1732 …. He tested YDNA PURPLE/35 with an additional mutation on a Red Marker that 2 others in this branch have… this mutation may give us something further one day or it may just be random.
Also, George test results back to James W YB c1825 with an additional mutation on a Red Marker that no others in this branch have… this mutation maygive us something further one day or it may just be random.
Clay came forward with a clear path to our BLUE branch paperwork Ambrose to Jeremiah to James YB c1740-1791…. He tested YDNA BLUE
M YB - He had tracked his lineage very well back to GA… and with a small leap connected to Bennett Youngblood of Edgefield. He matches perfectly the PURPLE YBs of Edgefield….in the line of Peter YB c1725-1797…from a brother John or a son of John or sons of Peter himself…John, Abraham, Lewis c1856-1822, or George. Too many options to hang my hat on one or the other. Amos Caril YB is in this same puzzle and lives close to Holloway.
Bennett’s living in 1820 on 1820 census near the Holloway, Haygood and Walker families points Bennett’s father being to a son of Henry YB c1742-1770’s - sons Jesse c1763, Andrew c1765, Wm c1767 Henry c1770.. The known tested sons of Henry are Andrew YB c1765 (confirmed PURPLE YDNA match). This is not proven.
14 WALKER James 14 December 1793 SC Edgefield Land description Edgefield Deed Book 23, p. 171William Robinson and wife Elizabeth to James McMillian 450 acres on Cuffytownand Horsepen Creeks bounded SW and NE by John Burns, NW and SW by Andrew Youngblood, NW by James WALKER, SW by Jacob Young, SW and N by John Bullock Edgefield Deed Books 23, 24, 25, 26Wells, Carol 14
14 WALKER John 02December 1816 SC Edgefield Deed Deed Book 33, p. 278. Jesse Youngblood of Est Florida to Thos Youngbloodof Edgefield, 193 acres in South Carolina described in plat to Andrew Youngblood. 193 acres on Cuffeetown Creek of Stephens Creek on SavannahRiver adj SW on land of JOHN WALKER,. NW on land granted to John Burns, NE onHAYGOOD. also HOLLOWAYS land, SE on Asa Holloway and Andrew Youngblood. John WALKER and WilliamYoungblood chain carriers forsurvey. Wit James WALKER. Quitclaim of Mary Youngbloodwit James WALKER, JP, proven 24 dec 1816 by Andrew Youngblood;Robert WALKER JP Edgefield Deed Books 32, 33 Wells, Carol 140
14 WALKER James, Elizabeth 26 December 1816 SC Edgefield Deed Deed Book 33, p279. Andrew Youngblood and Thomas Youngblood to Asa Holloway 254 acres on both sides ofCuffytown Creek adj lands of Benjamin Hagood, John Burns, Elizabeth WALKER,James WALKER, sd Holloways. 200 of it being land granted to Henry Youngblood 28 Aug 1767 Edgefield Deed Books 32, 33 Wells, Carol 126
R YB - this member was avery confusing case. He literally has NO matches at 25 or 37 markers…None…not just no YB matches. His 12 marker matches appear to suggest a European Balkan connection…Slovenia area - just a WAG for now. Need more members of the family 1st, 2nd cousins or further back to confirm this WAG. This connection may be back in the Roman times or the Ottoman empire times in the Balkans. SO curious
B L YB – This was (is) our first and only descendant of the Charleston SC YBs. They were well documented by Georgia Keyser Youngblood back to Peter YB c1700-1770. But she said they were related to the Edgefield area YBs…many researchers pooh poohed and said “Not So- these YBs are not GREEN and not any PURPLE branch; a whole different branch”… But he tested PURPLE with a distinct mutation. He is a descendant of Peterc1700’s son William brother of Peter c1732-88 of Barnwell YBs. There are two rubs here…
He does not have the Marker /35 mutation of the descendants of Peter c1732-88 his documented brother.
He has a distinct location for now at marker DYS389 that only one other YB has. Is this a distinct mutation of a technician error?
We need more descendants of this branch to confirm that these mutations are carried forward. One day maybe.
Marston YB – This was our first member from the VA/WVA Youngblood line. Again, they used the same Biblical names as our PA/NC/SC YBs and we had to migrate through VA to get to NC so I was hoping to make another connection to a different part of the country. No Match. They have a book about their family and it describes, if accurate, clearly why they would not be related. Though we do not have many members in this line, I have called it the AQUA line.
Thomas YB– This Thomas had enough on his lineage that I could fill in the rest based on previous research of the Thomas YB c1745 and Amy Hopkins line…grandson Jacob YBc1816/Mildred Geren of Pike co, AL and LA/TX area and he tested YDNA GRAY witha couple of mutations not seen before in “RED” markers shown by research tomutate more often or it is also possible that the Technicians read the resultsor typed in the results incorrectly.
JA YB- JA had virtually nothing to begin with…through many little strokes of luck and info on location and time, he deemed inconsequential…it was enough for me to track him back to Peter YBc1732 once his YDNA came in as PURPLE/35. Here is his email back to me when I welcomed him to the project…Many little projects SO MUCH FUN…I offered to help.
Hi Larry,
Thank you for the warm welcome.
Unfortunately, I have almost no information to start and know of no research done in my family. I have no close family remaining on this side. (No aunts, uncles, cousins or grandparents. I think I have one first cousin once removed who I have not seen in 40+ years and may still be living.)
I have no written documents, family Bible, pictures, etc... I remember a few stories of my great grandmother, but never even heard stories of my great grandfather. There was a farm in MS where my paternal grandfather was raised. He moved to Memphis, TN to marry my grandmother. I think most of my paternal family were from MS near the Memphis area but maybe it was a different part of MS.
That is where I am starting! Thank you for your kind offer of help. I am not sure where I am heading with this, but I may need help. If so, I will remember your offer.
James Youngblood
CH YB Location information gave us hope of finding a YB family related to the NC/SC who remained in the PA area. Alas, a No Match. Though an Atdna match appears to show a link to the PURPLE/35Youngblood line, the tree is in error – maybe significant and maybe not… and I do not believe that the dna share is a YB surname dna share- Trust but verify.
TRC and two other close relatives - This was a surprise as a match was to GREEN line of Youngbloods and was not expected. Documents were discovered that did confirm his line as Thomas YB c1769 Jr son of Thomas YB c1736-1808 son of John Miles YB c1708.
SE YB - He tracked his line back to John c1789. Location clues suggested his line to be GREEN John’s father unknown. He tested GREEN…thus confirmed to John but as of yet John’s father and grandfather escape us but he is in the John Miles YB c1708 line.
JW YB He / we have tracked his lineage back to Hardaway YB c1819…he matches the other Hardaway descendant but we need more information as these two are in the same branch beginning in c1900 so we need a member of this family in the branch of a different brother, father or grandfather.
DR YB - He has researched his line back to Joel YB c1807 of SC and matches the two other descendants of the ancestor. His test strongly suggests that Joel was an NPE that as of yet we have not confirmed a solution.
Joel T YB Joel had tracked his line back to Jacob son of Thomas c1736-1808, son of John Miles YB c1708…our GREEN YDNA profile line. He tested GREEN thus confirming /supporting his lineage. Joel also attended our last Youngblood YDNA Seminar and presented a wonderful and interesting discussion on his line.
Joe YB – Joe had tracked his line back to Allen c1793, son of Jonathan YB c1766 our GREEN group. He tested GREEN YDNA profile.
John J YB - One hoped this would be a link for our NC/SC Youngbloods back to our German ancestors…he is from the Wilkes-Bare area of PA. Alas, a No Match and the “Viking” I Haplogroup….just adds another wrinkle.
T F YB provides additional important information about Joel YB c1807 as he matches the other two Joel but all three are different branches back to Joel. This means that Joel is the first contributor to this YDNA pattern.
D W – We have our first European member who has joined and is a PURPLE match. He has a different surname but points to a Pierre Jongbloet c1710 – the Dutch spelling. Regretfully, he has not responded to emails asking for more detail information. Could be an adoption or just does not want to communicate…most Dutch do speak English.
As can be seen, there was a major fall off in new members over the last 2 years. There remain a lot of questions to be answered about the children of the NC/SC YBs of 1790.
We have a new member by name of Hammond (somehow as well related to a family – Hurlbut, and Tarvin) who near matches Benjamin YB1773 bit back a fw generations in Europe. You may recall Benjamin was one of our first "no matches" to the major lines of YDNA from SC. We will have to see how this plays out. There were Hammonds and Tarvins in the area with interactions with Youngbloods. We have found no Hurlbut/Hurlbert in the area.
I managed to make contact with a Jungblut in Germany and he agreed to best tested. ONE BIG TIME disappointment, he is a match to no one in our group or anyone in the FTDNA data base. A big setback to a major goal to find a European connection in hopes they would have more info about our family before they left Germany. Also, a different Haplogroup.
A surname YOUNG joined the group after we did see previously that a Youngblood had apparently dropped the "blood" and was a match to BLUE. This new"Young" did not match any of the current YBs-a different paternal line.
O Youngblood missing a lineage link, was assumed to be most likely BLUE based on migration path. Tested YDNA = BLUE.
, we had numerous members make the jump to 67 markers to confirm a test that showed marker 425 as null. All PURPLE, PURPLE/35, GRAY and BLUE who tested showed marker 425 as null… GREEN and all Nonmatches showed 425 not missing and numerically a “12”. I had FTDNA review original and marker was not missing. There was very little determined from the 67 marker test...1 marker different. 15 for BLUE, 16 for GRAY and 17 for PURPLE. Not a large enough sample to know it this is meaningful yet…original theory is that mutations count up and not down.
12/11/2009 -02/16/2010 - We pick up our first pure test for mtDNA verification to prove maternal lineage. It was confirmed. There was a desire to see NA characteristics and none were shown. We have another potential mtDNA verification test....I guess on hold for now.
Our first European German Jungblut joined the project and unfortunately was a No Match. He had also a different Haplogroup than most of our NC/SC YBs. His lineage back hundreds of years appears to be of “Viking/Scottish” interactions. We have found this now not so uncommon.
R M Youngblood, missing a link, was assumed to be most likely BLUE based on migration path. Test YDNA PURPLE/35
J M Youngblood became a member expecting a PURPLE/35 connection. The results did not match...so it is back to research. Now I don't know what the ultimate outcome will be, but I did not know two of my cousins were adopted until I became involved in the genealogy project. Others have told me when I contacted them to join..."Yes, I am from that line but my father told me he was adopted". On the rough trips by small boat from Palatinate to Rotterdam to get on a ship to go to American and then to cross the ocean, there were instances of der jungen whose parents died and were brought on to America as Youngbloods. I have seen so many wives who have died in their first child birth with the child going back to the grandparent as the young father just could not handle it. Numerous plagues and wars caused the same kind of "adoptions". I find myself no longer amazed when we have mismatches living with YBs as YBs. There is an answer for each of these...we just do not know it yet. [New terminology...non-parental event -NPE]
Norman YB, a mulatto living next door to Erasmus YB Edgefield SC 1870 census. Family lore had long held Norman's father was Erasmus YB. Now "mulatto" is a first clue. I had forewarned the member that the father could have been any overseer or some other person. I have heard so much family lore about Native American ancestors with no proof. Norman's descendant is a perfect YDNA PURPLE. This does not absolutely define Norman's father as there were sons of Erasmus of age in the home. I have no proof of that....or who the father may be. Here, family lore with YDNA evidence will determine that.
W C’s lineage was unknown as an adoptee. He tested PURPLE…and began research from scratch. Though we have not confirmed his lineage back to Peter YB c1725 of Edgefield, a brother or a son…this is the YDNA track.
G R YB’s lineage was confused by multiple birth dates. Family researchers were looking for an answer. By location, we expected a PURPLE test result but results were a No Match. Still looking for the answer.
Lucian N Youngblood WW II Doolittle Raider Well, sometimes brick walls come tumbling down. I have been able to trace the Doolittle raider (Lucian Nevelon YB) to a common ancestor Thomas 1745 and Amy Hopkins Youngblood of SC. His line is briefly mentioned in the YB-Armstrong book and can be filled out much more. It appears he had no children...though I was able to attend his wife's funeral last year. He did have a brother Nolen Curtis YB so we may be able to get more on descendants one day. I have been successful in tracing Lucian and Nolen's line. Some might say this was an easy one...only took 2 years and a little dumb luck from a researcher looking for another Youngblood to find. I still would like to learn more about his brother's side of the family. (2009 – I found L'Jean YB, Lucian's wife passed away, attended her funeral, they had no children.)
Do you know anything further on Cutis Nolenor descendants? Appears he had no children.
Thomas/Amy YB
Thomas/Jane YB
Oliver/ Tinzy YB ...
Oscar Pierce YB --
Clarence Curtis YB .....
.....Lucian Nevelon YB
Curtis Nolan YB (awaiting the release of the 1940 census in hopes of tracking them down)
Thomas/Jane and Jacob B have two other brothers - David and James - which I have been able to trace to current day over the last four years with the yeomen help of Bill and Rick.
Would love to have contact with a current YB of Curtis if they are available. We have yet to confirm the father of Thomas 1745. The hunt continues.
Jack YB going into this search we had few clues…by location, all major lines went through that area of OK. In his lineage, there was a YB male marrying a GRAY YB female – which gave us a nervous perspective of what we might find. He tested GRAY. This lineage search provided me the opportunity to confirm Lucian YB’s lineage without YDNA of Lucian. See above.
DA YB based on research and family ties, we expected a PURPLE lineage. YDNA results are a no match suggesting an NPE. We did confirm the result with a cousin, Research continues
We appear to have identified a descendant of the last remaining son of Thomas and Amy YB (Thomas S, Basil Manley, Wm Oscar-1852…Jack) and await anxiously the test kit results.
– One of our curious SC Youngblood ancestors provides us another puzzle to solve. Our first descendant of Hardaway Youngblood. Based on birth location, we expected a PURPLE/35 but we had a no match. This member has 18 matches of 32 total of another surname. Later a cousin confirms the YDNA profile.
November 2007 – Robert LE YB – Documentation available looked solid…YDNA a no match…and a different Haplogroup. Work continues.
New Kink in the John Miles and Peter lines with latest results.... I have known this family for over 20 years. Their ancestry had them tied to John Miles YB, 1708, Thomas 1680and Abraham 1635...so a couple of year’s back I told them we were not related. (Now…WE MATCH 66/67)
Well, over the last year or so with DNA, we have found a few mistakes in the internet and paper histories. We, it seems, have another rand I can now call Spencer and Ryan "cousins". They match the PURPLE... Please let me know if anything below until 1708 is incorrect......
Winton S YB 1918
..Herbert Spencer 1893
....George Washington 1850
......Uriah 1802
........Joshua 1766
..........John 1730
..break....John Miles 1708
This is the second event pointing to this problem. Likely that John Miles had a son name John but PURPLE John is not the one some have tied to John Miles YB. John c1730 appears to be the father of Joshua c1766, George1768, Abraham J 1769, and Isaac 1771 but is not a son of John Miles YB...Jump in Dorothy with further details and questions and all the PURPLE researchers need to help us determine who the father of PURPLE John 1730...Bd near Peter JR1732 ? Other Possibilities???? This could help Ruth (PURPLE)...and others takea generation step further back in time.
Jungbluth Connection We have received the results of our Jungbluth member of our YDNA project. There is no relationship. Though this does not absolutely rule out a connection...to some Jungblut(h) line as spellings are so messy over the years....this Jungbluth line is in no way related. Quite a disappointment. Initial investigation says this line of Jungbluths came from Prussia which is in fact a very long way from Palatinate.
The most closely related member is in our group to the Jungbluth....is 4 of 12 mutations/markers off...a 2% chance of relationship in24 generations. The GREEN Group - John Miles YB - is 5 of 12 markers off. My GRAY group - Thomas YB - is 8 of 12 markers off...a 0.1% chance of relationship in 24 generations...approaching Adam and Eve... PURPLE and BLUE Groups are 9 of12 "OFF".
March 2007 –Ralph YB – turned out to be a curious event. Tracking his lineage seemed perfectly done…and then his YDNA did not match the Youngbloods of Abbeville. His best match was a “Young”…an adoption? A Takein? NPE…? I have not received an update.
Ted Ellis YB joining our project was a very important event for this project. His close relative wrote the book linking his family to John Miles YB 1708 GREEN and family members, like mine before him, “knew” our family books were correct. His results were PURPLE with a slight mutation not seen in the PURPLE group before…or a technician error. This then points his family to the PURPLE John YB, brother or son OR a son of Peter YB c1725-1797 also names John… losing the censuses of 1790-1810 for GA may make this conclusion unavailable to us.
John Colin YB – research places him in the Hancock Co, PURPLE Youngbloods…12/12 …test suggests this is true. I would like to see an upgrade to 37 markers to confirm he does not have a mutation at marker 35.
This was a fun month and really confused my brain…One PURPLE and One BLUE…near same names.
John C YB – We expected him to test BLUE and he did.
June 2006 –Johnny YB – My dad knew this family; thought them to be related just up HWY 79 from where we live… but not by YDNA. Under the new privacy rules…Johnny passed and his sister Nelda, who ordered to test for Johnny also passed. So I need permission of the next of kin to upgrade his test to 37 or 67 markers to see what we can learn. 23 of his 31 matches show another surname…suggesting an adoption or NPE somewhere along the lineage.
Personally, after spending 35 years to prove my connection to John Miles YB…I am not connected. Most all Internet sites say that John Miles YB was the father of Thomas c1736-c1808. This is correct but NOT the Thomas c1745-1822 of SC who married Amy Hopkins and lived in Edgefield SC area. Thomas of John Miles remained in NC.
May 2006. Steven Bradley YB - Research expects to show him as a descendant of John Miles YB c1708 and it does. GREEN
April 2006 – Forrest Calvin YB – Descendant of first cousin to Wm L YB…in theory we should match 12/12 and we do. A 37 marker test would be nice…but not necessary based on data available GRAY. See Francis Lee below
March 2006 –Francis Lee YB – A descendant of my WM LYB’s brother…in theory we should match 12/12 and 37/37 and we do. GRAY.
Feb 2006 – John Wade… Matches the two other descendants of Joel YB 12/12 and 37/37 but not a match to our COLOR YDNA profiles.
January 2006 – Marion YB –PURPLE tracking back to Peter c1725, Abrahamc1760, Seaborn c1790…See Walter Vand John Marshall
To date we have 28 Youngblood project members as we approach the end of our first year. We are anticipating member kits in the next few weeks for Ichabod and Reuben descendants to help us confirm two North Carolina lines as we look for each of us the answers to our ancestra lquestions.
We expect the Ichabod line is from John Miles YB(GREEN) as he remained in NC as most NON-GREEN leftfor SC...(did not return kit) and
the Reuben line is a toss up…but current thoughts are to the BLUE line. (Reuben descendant tested BLUE…lineage now much better defined)
Johnny and John Wade (Joel & James W descendants)test kits are being redone with vial #2 due to totally unexpected results. Results in about a month. (Second test with second vile showed no difference as one would expect and hope for). These test results do not match the PURPLE of GREEN YDNA lines.
All is not perfect as we did not get was expected from the Benjamin 1773 results. We begin again digging through paper and look for another direct male descendent to help us confirm the DNA profiles we are seeing. Keep looking for new lines to link. Tell any Youngblood you meet...we need them to participate....with "Cells and Tales". You never know where the piece of information you really need will come from.
[2019– Atdna offers a suggestion of a female YB connection…more later]
Kathy YB Carter – Walter V - Lucky Charm found a connection to the Peter YB 1732 on ancestry and the12 marker test suggested this was correct. In going to 37 markers, her connection then became Peter c1725 of Edgefield.(now PURPLE Peter c1725-1797 and Not PURPLE/35) group – Seaborn of Abraham of Peter YB c1725.....like me, still looking for the exact person at the exact time.
[I think we got it]
Ohio YBs linked to Edgefield SC, TN and back to NC for a link to James 1740 and new speculation about a relationship to Reuben YB c1805. (Confirmed BLUE)
Steve matches GRAY Group 11/12. A slight difference than has been seen before on a “Red” marker – by historical data this is a marker that mutates more often than blue markers…or a testing /reporting error. (When Steve tested to 37 markers, there were no further mutations. This confirm she is in the line of Thomas YB/Amy Hopkins and we have linked him to Jacob YBc1812 son of James YB c1785 and Nancy Barlow.
Bob Leonard matches BLUE – a new little wrinkle to understand the migration path as he does not fit in anywhere in Dorothy Quaife’s research..
[I believe we have now resolved this conundrum]
Indiana Youngbloods originally linked to Peter Jr YB 1732PURPLE (now PURPLE/35) …. NOTE: Branches of the two Peter YBs moved to Indiana….Different counties
Jacob 1750 Revolutionary War Veteran who originally documented he was GREEN is a PURPLE by YDNA test… son of Peter YB c1725-1797.
Troy Douglas YB Markers in…..A complete mismatch….very puzzling as we expected we had a goodpaper trail.
John Wade matches previous Joel c1807 YDNA, but again does not match our COLOR YDNA patterns. This suggests Joel is a new move in or an NPE. We are still struggling with the Joel and James Walker Youngblood connection. We will need more descendants and some more digging. YDNA pattern does notmatch any of the COLOR Branches.
Overall DNA Results To Date we have 21 Youngblood Project members and 2 Youngbloods outside the FTDNA Project. We have identified multiple members in four groups/lines of Youngbloods and two single kits tha tat this time do not link to the four other lines. We are looking to find confirming members of these two lines and of course, always more so we may learn and confirm the identified lines from Thomas ~1745, Peter c1725, Peter~1732, James ~1740 and John Miles YB ~1708.
July has seen us match a current Illinois Youngblood to James 1740 BLUE line - Wm Youngblood 1806. (There is also a PURPLE YB c1806) We have another current IL Youngblood who we expect to tie to the SC YBs - not absolutely sure which group as many GREEN YBs went there as new lands were opened up…free or cheap land…off we go.
We have a Texas Youngblood tracing back to Benjamin 1773. I am really looking forward to the results of these next few weeks. Will be very interesting as many branches and lines claim him…PURPLE, GRAY, and GREEN.
G. Everett results match PURPLE group. This group of markers is extremely tight. There are so very few mismatches within the group. What does this mean?
Denny R matches James/Jeremiah BLUE group.
Dallis YB results – Expected PURPLE/35- does not match any one color.
James Allan 37 Results are in. James is my son and we match 37/37 . Of Note…he matches Bill T 37/37…they are separated by 5-6 generations. What does this mean? For me, this means multiples are not significant, may be misread or of any help to distinguish between lines unless they are very large or in the wrong direction.. This goes against common DNA rules.
Thomas Kelly YB Results in PURPLE/35 Group
Rick’s 37 comes in with a good match to Larry and Wayne
Hank results put him in the BLUE James / Jeremiah Youngblood DNA Project - showing this line is clearly different from John Miles Youngblood /Thomas Youngblood Results. The DNA test has shown that John Miles~bd 1708 son of Thomas Youngblood of Maryland is NOT related to Thomas Youngblood (of Amy Hopkins )( ~bd 1746unknown) of the Edgefield district of SC father of Jacob B et al ( of the Pike Co AL Group).
Additionally, John Miles YB is not related to Amos Caril YB (PURPLE)of Edgefield born 1784, Jeremiah YB 1765 BLUE, Samuel Sr 1754 PURPLE/35 of the Delois K YB line.
The DNA of the well proven John Miles YB descendant matches Benny YB who I have been trying to link to for years, Ron YB of Ft Worth TX andWm L YB of Boulder, CO. I feel very comfortable we have sufficient data to prove relationship to the above lines for anyone who wishes to take the DNA test.
If you are a male Youngblood who believes you are related to John Miles YB, Thomas, Samuel, Jeremiah, Eli, Reuben, Seaborn...1700'sto mid 1800s or do NOT know, we can provide you with the information to focus your genealogy search. Larry Youngbloodlyoungblood9@Comcast.net---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- We start the month of April off with a blockbuster. DNA evidence shows Thomas(of Amy Hopkins) YB of SC, revolutionary war veteran, father of Jacob B YB(Youngblood-Armstrong and Allied families Group).......is NOT related to JohnMiles Youngblood as many, many internet trees proclaim...as well as many of myPike county relatives have assumed.
Please everyone, break the link between this Thomas/w Amy YB 1745 and John Miles YB 1708, review your analysis, look at your proof and send to me for review. Note: the proof is NOT JUST YDNA but new research ...then I will call and let's discuss. 281-772-0952
- The results just keep coming in....we just do not have all we need and an analysis of what it all means yet. April will again offer us a couple more chances to gain a better understanding.
--- This past months results have again been intriguing indeed. The results from the Delois Kelly YB lines shows a closer than expected link to the Thomas/Jacob B YB line (11/12, then 35/37). This YB from Abbeville, SC having moved from Barnwell CO…Having been told this cannot be; must match John Miles YB GREEN....this begins to look like Group A is NOT linked to JohnMiles YB.
The results from the Jeremiah YB lines shows a closer than expected link to the Thomas/Jacob B YB line(11/12, then 36/37 and 65/67). Having been told “this cannot be” by Dorothy Quaife....this begins to look like Group A is not linked to John Miles YB as well. Dorothy originally thought her James c1740 was the son of John Miles YB;then said NOT; YDNA has confirmed NOT. (We now call the Jeremiah/James 1740group BLUE)
So many internet sites link Jeremiah/James and Thomas/Jacob line to John Miles YB….they are all wrong….!..by YDNA and new research. The usage of common biblical names has historically caused errors in research. Now with electronic copying so easy, these errors are propagating relentlessly. Pass this along and clean up Internet Databases.
What does this mean? Other than we need more basic documentation, speculation can really run wild on this. We had a delay in the YDNA test for the John Miles YB descendent....still hopeful this will clarify the meaning of the above "new" links. We should have this test back this month.
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For Group A (GRAY), its back to looking all over again.....! My most recent known ancestor (MRKA) is WM L Youngblood 1833 GA.His family lived next door to family of James YB (1809) son of Jacob B for 30years. My assumption was that WM L's father was a brother of James or Jacob. Iam expecting this to be Jacob Jr c1793 c1839…must find proof. DNA match 36-37/37to a documented descendant of James, Son Jacob B, son of Thomas YB (wife AmyHopkins) born ~ 1745.
Wayne's MRKA is Amos Caril Sr Youngblood (PURPLE) bd~1784-37/37to Peter YB c1725. Matches 34-6/37 to Thomas/Amy YB(GRAY) line. Was he a son of Thomas? nephew? Cousin or second cousin?...
Matches 34-6/37to Peter 1732 YB line. Where's the connect?
Thomas 1745, Peter 1732 James 1740 and Amos are most definitely related. Some very interesting results in...Some very interesting tales to tell. Two distinct lines identified now with at least four memberseach. I will begin referring for the time being to different Youngblood Groupsby color code:
Group A-0 has four members at present (GRAY) Larry Unknown(Jacob Jr 1793?) of Jacob YB c. 1770 of Thomas/Amy Hopkins YB c.1740....Rick YB of David of Thomas & Amy William T of James of Thomas & AmyHerbert (Hub) of James of Jacob of Thomas & A Youngblood members.
Group A-1 has four members at present. (PURPLE) The"-1" means one of twelve genetic markers in distance from the "-0"group. Wayne B Youngblood of Amos C YB (PURPLE) is in this group. Thomas KellyYB(PURPLE/35), Jesse (PURPLE), Ruth (PURPLE) and Billy (First thought PURPLE/35- Peter Jr. -~1732 now are branch PURPLE Peter c1725 – no mutation at marker35.)
Group A-2 has one member at present. (BLUE) James 1740-1792.The "-1" means one of twelve genetic markers in distance from the"-0" group…but this is a different marker that Group A-1 PURPLE…or PURPLE/35
Group B has 4 members at present.(GREEN) The genetic distance is "7"/"8" on the twelve marker test meaning a distinct line of Youngbloods.
Benny, Ron and Bill L YB. This line now ties clearly to John Miles Youngblood 1708 sons.
More new members needed.... Tell one and tell all. We need funds as well to help us get disinterested folks involved a little easier at least with the $101 cheek scrape. We have been able to put together two sets (now more) of members/folks who had no idea of a connection. We have identified 5 additional folks tied to the Thomas and Amy Youngblood line......but now...well back to the research and to trolling for other Youngbloods to participate.
NOTE: All member test kits are now in. We really need somemore to keep the momentum going.
Jeffery Steven YB kit matches 11/12 with Larry and Wayne (10/12)but differently….we now have 4 lines – 3 related and one unrelated. (35/37 Jeffery begins new branch -best matches are BLUE-later clearly confirmed with Dorothy Quaife’s data)
----- Group A-0 (PURPLE) and A-1(PURPLE/35) results establishes a link between the Edgefield group and the Barnwell Group. Let's try to find more from the Barnwell area. Who is Bart and who is Reason and how are they related to Amos Caril YB. Is the Samuel living near Reason a brother...same approximate age.
The kit is in the lab for ...documented descendant of John Miles YB 1708 throughHenry Miles YB ~1735...really getting excited about receiving the results onthis test.
[Confirmed GREEN ]
We have our first descendant member from the Greenville SCarea and group.....
Joel (1807) - should get results back in 6 weeks or so. (thought to bea son of a Thomas...but we think maybe a different Thomas than Amy's)....Otherssay he will be PURPLE/35…
Anyone having "paper Proof",.....bring it on. NoMatch
- 21 - members(actually 23) 18 - Results in (actually 20. There are two YBs who came to usfrom tests outside the FTDNA Youngblood Project…testing with other companiesand FTDNA providing a conversion package.
3 - Results headed to/in the lab 0 - Test kits in transit. Iam still expecting two or so members monthly based on emails received....allare welcome. We would expect about one result back a week in the next 2-3 weeksto add to our current results.
The results already have connected Amos Caril Youngblood tothe Thomas and Amy Hopkins YB line.... now HOW is the next task. There was noknown connection before. This is an 11/12 match ”cousins ?”66/67
One most interesting find...we have two "doubleYoungbloods" ie a Youngblood line married a Youngblood line in theProject. In one case, where one of the lines hit a brick wall with itsresearch...the other line went further back and there is a 12/12 match betweenthese lines. Now find the paper link and prove it up. (Done)
We have received a General Fund donation which will be usedwhere we expect upon reviewing these pending results the greatest amount ofknowledge to be gained. Analysis and suggestions will be sought on how this canbe effectively used to further the project plan from all participants. Theremay again come a time when donations may be important to the knowledgebase....as of now the fund is virtually nil...I will let all know if I feel anew member's information would be worth it to us all. [Always could use moredonations as some folks are elderly and living on a fixed income]
Rick comes back with a 12/12 match to Group A-0(therefore11/12 to Group A-1) Rick has excellent paper work to David son of Thomas andAmy YB.
Wm L of Colorado comesback with a 12/12 with Group B- GREENJacob son of John Miles YB. Bill along with Benny and Ron are beginning tocompare notes. This is our newly definedGREEN YDNA profile family descendants of John Miles YB.
First 37 marker results come in. These are disappointingresults and as of now, scrambling for an explanation…only 7 of the last 13match. The lab is to review and then we will get together for an explanation. Iorder a kit for my son as a very close validation of the process.
Partial results are in from LarryYoungblood 37 marker and Wayne B. Youngblood 37 marker tests. We are a 23/24match. ************** shows a 35/37 match (as Expected)
William Thurman (Bill) 12 marker results – matches Larry(67/67) and Hub 01/29/2005
Wayne and Larry matched 36 of the first 37.
Jimmie Ray Youngblood (now PURPLE/35), Billy J. YoungbloodJesse C. Youngblood (PURPLE) The above are an 11/12 match to Larry and Hubwhile Ron matches no one. (Ron's line becomes GREEN (John Miles YB 1708 match)
– 7/12 different markersthan the Edgefield/Abbeville group. Ron's Group we call GREEN. (GREEN30/37)
We have then three lines of YBs 12/17/2004 Larry decides,for the knowledge it may be worth to bring, to take the 37 test as Wayne hasordered the 37 marker test (Wayne defines first our PURPLE Group matching GRAY36/37 with DS391 + 1).
Larry and Hub YB (documented to James 1809, Jacob B,Thomas and AMY YB) match 12/12 (This becomes the GRAY Group 36/37with a mutation not seen anywhere else; just as likely a technician error.)